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Why Am I an Atheist
September 12th, 2007 posted by pcs under Opinion

by Poch Suzara

Just like priests, bishops, cardinals, popes, and indeed theologians are all born atheist, I too was born atheist. Yes, my dear reader, you are born an atheist too. If you are unable to see this piece of truth, please do not blame me; blame instead your blind faith. No baby has a religion. No baby has faith in God. No baby comes out of mother’s womb a Catholic, or a Muslim, or a Jew, or a Buddhist, or a Hindu. We are all born free and then indoctrinated. In my case, my parents and grandparents were reminded of eternal punishment in hell if they did not have me, as a child, baptized a Catholic. I ask: where was then my so-called free will to have chosen the kind of religion I should have wished to embrace for myself? At age 18, after having been expelled out of high-school for asking far too many religious questions, I began to extricate myself up and gradually out of Christian values and beliefs by entertaining the case against God - atheism. The question, “Who made me? cannot be answered, since it immediately suggests the further question, Who made God? If, however, evidences were discovered that as a matter of fact a Goddess made God, I will immediately drop my atheism down the tube.

We all live like parasites on a speck of dust in an infinity of worlds. One million planets the size of earth can fit inside the sun. But 500 of our suns can be swallowed up in one small gulp by a bigger star called “Betelgeuse.” If it were true that a God created man in his own image and likeness, then God must be a microscopic perfection himself but lost in self-admiration. In the meantime, if God created everything, including space and time, where was God located before he created space, and when was it before he created time?

As a devout atheist, I believe that the conquest of fear is the beginning of wisdom, as in the search for the truth, and as in the works needed for the good life, - especially the one inspired by love and guided by knowledge. No doubt, in the end, death will conquer us all; but if we must die, let us die sober, and not drunk with religious lies.

In the meantime, as an atheist, it is my duty to declare that:

Atheists are not objects to hate, but people like you to love. The question is not what, but who are the atheists?

Atheists accept that heaven is something for which we should work on now – here on earth – for all of mankind to enjoy.

Atheist accept that we can get no help through prayer but that we must find within ourselves the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to understand the world rationally, and to enjoy it peacefully.

Atheists accept that only in knowledge of one’s self can we live the life of understanding and fulfillment. Therefore we seek to know fellow-human beings rather than to know supernatural beings.

Atheists know that a hospital should be built instead churches and cathedrals.

Atheists know that a deed must be done instead of prayer said.

Atheists strive for involvement in life and not escape into death. We want diseases conquered, poverty defeated, and war eliminated. We want humankind to love and understand mankind. We want an ethical way of life. We accept that we cannot rely on a god nor channel action into prayer or wish for an end of our troubles in the hereafter. Atheists accept that we are – in a great sense – our brother’s keepers in that we are first, keepers of our own lives; that we are responsible people, and that the job is here and the time is now.



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[ # 1138 ] Comment from DEITY [September 13, 2007, 1:53 pm]

It’s alright if you don’t believe in God. God believes in you and He loves you.

[ # 1142 ] Comment from pcs [September 14, 2007, 9:20 pm]

But what if God does not believe in Himself? What if God is an atheist who does not believe in God? After all, God’s first commandment - Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Where in hell did those other gods come from? Who created such gods? If God did create other gods why not believe in such gods also?

[ # 1143 ] Comment from pcs [September 14, 2007, 9:29 pm]

Rizal was executed by religious crackpots in authority over life and death during his century. The same religious crackpots in control of minds and hearts of most Filipinos today in our century. Indeed, there was a time when the world was ruled by religion. Every man, woman, and child believed and loved God. Historians refer to it as the Dark Ages. Filipinos today still live in the dark ages. The Philippines is still ruled by religion in general, Christianity in particular.

Had Rizal lived on as a serious reader, the writings of Robert Ingersoll would have made him realized that his belief in the holy trinity was based on nothing but holy baloney. Indeed, in reading the writings of Robert G. Ingersoll, any high school dropout gifted with a little I.Q. could rightly conclude that sacred gimcrackery pretty much characterized the formation of Christianity. Poch Suzara

THE HOLY TRINITY

Robert G. Ingersoll
1833 – 1899

Christ, according to the faith, is the second person of the Trinity, the Father being the first, and the Holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten – just the same before as after.

Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded, from the Father and Son, but was equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is say, before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two.

So it is declared that the Father is God and the son is God, and Holy Ghost God and that these three Gods make one God.

According to the celestial multiplication table once one is three, and three times one is one, and according to heavenly subtraction if we take two from three, three are left. The addition is equally peculiar, if we add two to one we have but one. Each is equal to himself as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing can ever be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.

[ # 1237 ] Comment from erwinilao [October 2, 2007, 10:14 pm]

Let me declare that as a devout Atheist, you sound like the real Christian whom Christ came to love, referred to as friend and brother and whom He would gladly make a steward in His Holy house. For in all your definition of who athiests are, you have defined how Christ-like one should be:

Christ accept that heaven is something for which we should work on now – here on earth. That is the reason why He preached the Gospel of Love so that people may love one another and be at Peace in the Love of God here on earth.

Christ accept that we can get no help through prayer, but that we must find within ourselves the inner conviction and strength to meet life, to understand the world rationally, and to enjoy it peacefully. That is why he mentions offering one’s cheek when your enemy slaps you, and why He died silently on the cross instead of launch a rebellion.

Christ accept that only in knowledge of one’s self can we live the life of understanding and fulfillment. Therefore we seek to know fellow-human beings rather than to know supernatural beings. For these same reasons Christ demonstrated His knowledge of His mission and reason for Being. He understood that He had to die so that others may live. He taught us that mending your relationship with your neighbor is more important than sacrifice to God.

Christ know that a hospital should be built instead churches and cathedrals. That is why He cured the lepers and raised the dead more frequent than when He stayed in the Synagogue to pray. That is also why He cured people on Sabbath day.

Christ know that a deed must be done instead of a prayer said. That is why He hates the priests and the elders for being hypocrites.

Christ was involved in life. He did not escape into death. Instead He used death to demonstrate His love and therefore create the effect that we see throughout history.

Christ wants diseases conquered, poverty defeated, and war eliminated. He wants humankind to love and understand mankind. He wants an ethical way of life.

Christ accepts that men cannot rely on a god nor channel action into prayer or wish for an end of man’s troubles in the hereafter. Christ faced His troubles even sacrificing Himself. Though the sacrifice was too great He accepted His reason for Being and carried the cross. He knew that there will be an effect on the here and now only if He dies.

Christ preached and has shown that we are – in a great sense – our brother’s keepers in that we are first, keepers of our own lives; that we are responsible people, and that the job is here and the time is now.

So you see…you are not an athiest after all. You are who Christ wants mankind to be. And I salute you for living in the way of Christ more clearly than most Christians do.

[ # 1245 ] Comment from Rastafariana [October 5, 2007, 8:28 pm]

Erwin, as an agnostic, I must say that I am impressed by how you responded to PCS’s post. But i guess christ’s teachings have become muddled because of doctrination by the catholic church and other religious leaders. just my POV

[ # 1246 ] Comment from erwinilao [October 5, 2007, 8:43 pm]

You are right. I agree with you. Most religions have been self-serving, interpreting the teachings of their founders to suit their greed.

Should we hate greed in organized religion, definitely!

Should we reject the fundamental teachings they share.. well that’s another question.

I am in a quest for truth and wisdom and as far I have seen and experienced, there is no One truth, nor is there one ultimate Wisdom.

[ # 1283 ] Comment from deity [October 10, 2007, 1:45 pm]

hmmm… i wonder why mr. Poch has nothing to say to any of this.

PCS, i kinda missed you. hope all’s well with you. remember, God loves you:)

[ # 1365 ] Comment from marxchan [November 18, 2007, 9:54 am]

Thanks for this post. I thought I was the only atheist here on our country, let alone an Adamsonian. Keep it up!

[ # 1369 ] Comment from stiban_graffiti [November 19, 2007, 5:50 pm]

mas marami pang mabait na tao kaysa kay Jesus Christ.

Malabo pa rin yung pagpapakamatay ni Kristo sa krus. Ano sense nun? Tapos nabuhay din pagkatapos ng tatlong araw? Ano yun? Ano pa yung weight ng pagkakamatay nya? Kaya siguro di sya pumalag nung hulihin sya.

Mas matapang pa nga si Rizal.

Sa koran, di tinatanggap na nagpakamatay si Kristo sa krus at di tinatanggap ng mga muslim ang pagiging diyos ni Kristo kasi iisa lang ang diyos. Tapos me Holy Spirit pa.

Dapat nagpakamatay na lang ang lahat ng apostles pati rin si Virgin Mary para mas matindi ang epekto, kung gusto talaga nilang tumatak sa kasaysayan. Wala pa ring epek yun.

Atsaka sa bible, me power si Kristo, kaya nyang gumawa ng milagro - kahit nga siguro buong mundo kaya nyang pakainin ng sabay-sabay para wala nang magutom. Kahit ako kung me ganung power ako, pupunta agad ako sa PGH at gagamutin lahat ng may sakit. Atsaka overrated na si Jesus Christ.

Sabi pa ng kaibigan kong pastor ng born again, magsisisi na daw ako at tanggapin si Kristo sa buhay ko bilang panginoon at tagapagligtas kung ayaw kong mapunta sa impyerno.

Next time, mag-feature naman tayo ng ibang personality bukod kay Jesus Christ.

[ # 1371 ] Comment from Rastafariana [November 20, 2007, 4:00 am]

Nice one Stiban! That is why ang mga muslim mahirap maconvert kase sa aking limited knowledge of Qur-an, mas logical ang mga events dun.hehe. But I still am an agnostic.

[ # 1372 ] Comment from JB [November 20, 2007, 5:09 am]

Quran is logical?

surely, you’re joking, people.

islam doesn’t accept christ not because christ is inferior and islam “logical” or vice versa, but because christ belongs to a different “brand” — it’s like pepsi and coke — they’re both sodas, they both can eventually kill you, but that doesn’t stop their spinmeisters from doing spectacular things tearing out each other’s shit, even if essentially they’re similar.

it’s all entertainment. these different religions answer to different human needs in the same way we respond to specific kinds of music, visual cues, or stimuli — different strokes for different folks, so they say. after all, the human being is the most complex of animals. we’re basically crazy.

do i sound so serious or what?

[ # 1373 ] Comment from erwin [November 20, 2007, 5:17 am]

mas marami pang mabait na tao kaysa kay Jesus Christ.

ILAN KAYA? DEPENDE SA DEFINITION MO SIGURO NG MABAIT.

Malabo pa rin yung pagpapakamatay ni Kristo sa krus. Ano sense nun? Tapos nabuhay din pagkatapos ng tatlong araw? Ano yun? Ano pa yung weight ng pagkakamatay nya? Kaya siguro di sya pumalag nung hulihin sya.

HISTORICALLY DOCUMENTED YUNG PAGKAMATAY NYA SA KRUS. SAME THING WITH THE THOUSAND OF OTHER “CRIMINALS” NA PINAKO NG MGA ROMANS DURING THAT TIME. THE SENSE OF HIS DEATH IS IN FULFILLMENT OF THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES. YUNG SACRIFICE NYA TO DIE FOR THE SINS OF MANKIND, JUST TO PROVE NA HE IS WILLING TO GIVE HIMSELF UP BECAUSE HE LOVES US, YUN LAHAT YUNG RASON KUNG BAKIT HINDI SYA TUMAKBO AT NAGTAGO. YUNG PAGKABUHAY NYA IS ALSO TO FULFILL THE PROPHECIES OF THE JEWISH SCRIPTURES, TO PROVE THAT HE WILL CONQUER DEATH.

Mas matapang pa nga si Rizal.

DUH? BAKIT KAYA?

Sa koran, di tinatanggap na nagpakamatay si Kristo sa krus at di tinatanggap ng mga muslim ang pagiging diyos ni Kristo kasi iisa lang ang diyos. Tapos me Holy Spirit pa.

ACTUALLY, KORAN ACKNOWLEDGES THAT JESUS DIED ON THE CROSS. THEY SEE HIM AS A PROPHET SO THEY KNOW THAT “HE WAS SLAUGHTERED LIKE A LAMB” AS AN OFFERING. YOU HAVE A POINT WHEN YOU SAY NA HINDI NILA TINATANGGAP SI KRISTO NA DIYOS, ONLY THAT HE IS A PROPHET LIKE/EQUAL TO MOHAMMED. JUST LIKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS, MUSLIMS BELIEVE THAT THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD. YUNG HOLY SPIRIT IS NOT A GOD, TECHNICALLY, BUT A PERSON. ONE GOD IN THREE PERSONS, FATHER, SON AND HOLY SPIRIT.

Dapat nagpakamatay na lang ang lahat ng apostles pati rin si Virgin Mary para mas matindi ang epekto, kung gusto talaga nilang tumatak sa kasaysayan. Wala pa ring epek yun.

DUH? WALANG EPEK? I DO NOT KNOW. TELL ME OF AN EVENT THAT HAS INFLUENCED HISTORY FOR THE PAST 2000 YEARS. PLUS, MERELY DYING IS NOT SIGNIFICANT IF BEREFT OF MEANING. AFTER ALL THOUSANDS DIE EVERYDAY AND FOR DIFFERENT REASONS. WITH THE DEATH OF JESUS THE MAN, CAME THE FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE. OTHER MARTYRS FOLLOWED SUIT IN THEIR SACRIFICE, TOO, SO THERE WAS THAT EFFECT. AGAIN, THE ACT OF DYING ITSELF DOES NOT IMPACT MANKIND, BUT THE REASON BEHIND THE SACRIFICE.

Atsaka sa bible, me power si Kristo, kaya nyang gumawa ng milagro - kahit nga siguro buong mundo kaya nyang pakainin ng sabay-sabay para wala nang magutom. Kahit ako kung me ganung power ako, pupunta agad ako sa PGH at gagamutin lahat ng may sakit. Atsaka overrated na si Jesus Christ.

THE BIBLE IS ONE OF THE MANY COMPILED WRITTEN ACCOUNTS OF JESUS WHILE ON EARTH. IT STATES THAT JESUS HAS POWER OVER DEATH AND HAS CURED THE SICK AND CAST OUT DEMONS. THE SICK DURING THOSE TIMES WERE DEFINED SICK BECAUSE THEY WERE SEEN AS “UNCLEAN”. MORE THAN CURING THE SICK, JESUS WENT TO PROVE THAT HE HAS POWER TO CLEANSE PEOPLE OF THEIR GUILT AND FORGIVE THEIR SINS. WHILE YOU MAY BE GIVEN THE POWER TO CURE THE SICK, LIKE DOCTORS SOMEHOW, YOU WILL NEVER HAVE THAT POWER TO FORGIVE THE ORIGINAL SIN WITHOUT THE AUTHORITY FROM GOD. SINCE CHRIST CAME TO SAVE MANKIND FROM ITS’ SIN, HE DID THAT ULTIMATELY BY DYING AND RISING UP FROM THE DEAD. IT WAS NOT HIS FOREMOST JOB TO CURE THE SICK, BUT HE DID THAT TOO. YOU SAY OVERRATED? WELL I DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.

Sabi pa ng kaibigan kong pastor ng born again, magsisisi na daw ako at tanggapin si Kristo sa buhay ko bilang panginoon at tagapagligtas kung ayaw kong mapunta sa impyerno.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD FIND YOUR OWN TRUTH FIRST. IT MAY BE NOT BE IN A RELIGION. IT MAY BE IN A CAUSE. I GUESS WHAT MATTERS IS THAT YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE TO THE GREATEST GOOD IT CAN BRING, BOTH TO YOURSELF AND TO OTHERS. NEVER MIND THE FEAR OF HELL.

Next time, mag-feature naman tayo ng ibang personality bukod kay Jesus Christ.

CAN YOU NAME ONE? IT IS ALWAYS NICE TO KNOW SOMETHING NEW.

[ # 1374 ] Comment from marxchan [November 20, 2007, 5:18 am]

Have you guys even bothered reading the quran?

http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/index.htm

Doesn’t seem logical to me. Ex.
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/contra/by_name.html

[ # 1382 ] Comment from stiban_graffiti [November 21, 2007, 2:51 pm]

Mabuti nang malaman ang katotohanan ngayon kesa magpaloko sa dikta ng relihiyon. kesa naman yung natatakot at naghihintay tayo sa wala.

Tanging sa bible at bible lang ang malinaw na reference kay kristo, walang ibang libro o historian na nakapagpatunay sa mga nangyari sa bible.

Mas marami pang mabait kay Kristo.

hindi ako sumasakay sa Koran, binanggit ko lang ito kasi sa bible din galing ang Koran pero iba ang nilalaman nila. For comparison lang sa bible. diko naman kasi pwedeng i-compare sa FHM magazine ang bible. Mas maganda pa nga ang Koran kesa bible kasi iisa lang ang Islam, solid walang faction.

di gaya nung mga naniniwala sa bible na kristyano, dami nilang interpretation. ilan na ba break away group sa atin? me iglesia, me jil, me 7th day adventist, dating daan, at sangkaterba pang nagbabangayang religion na sila raw ang tama.

puro pananakot lang ang bible lalo na sa Old Testament. bugnutin ang Diyos sa Old Testament. pagkatapos tayung takutin sa OT, yung solution naman para mawala ang takot ang binigat ng New TEstament. parang mga nagbebenta ng herbal tea, papanoorin muna syo yung mga kung anu-anung sakit para matakot yung mga manunuod nito kya sa huli, ubos ang paninda nilang tsaa. Faith comes fron Fear.

at ano yung original sin? di pa ako buhay nung time ni Adan. malay ko sa kasalanang di ko ginawa. parang mga pinoy, di pa sinisilang, me sasaluhin nang foreign debt ng bansa.

di si Kristo ang nag-influenze sa mundo sa loob ng 2000 years. Ang RELIGION at ANG TAKOT SA GALIT NG DIYOS, ito ang nagpaikot at nagpahilo sa maraming civilization sa buong mundo sa loob ng 10,000 years at higit pa. Sa mga Incas, Mayans, Egyptians, Greeks, at sa mga ninuno nating sumamba sa mga bathala ng kung anu-ano.

After 2000 years mula ngayon, posibleng pagtawanan tayo ng mga future descendants natin na para bang mga Greeks tyo na sumamba kay Zeus at Poseidon.

at yung mga future descendants natin, posibleng na-hack na nila ang human dna para mabuhay sila ng isang libong taon o higit pa. so why fear death? if there is no more death, there is no need to fear God.

mas matapang si Rizal kasi alam nyang di sya mabubuhay pagkatapos syang barilin.

Overrated na si Kristo kasi 2000 years na nating syang pinag-uusapan.

[ # 1383 ] Comment from stiban_graffiti [November 21, 2007, 2:56 pm]

…at hanggang ngayon, miserable pa rin ang buhay natin dito sa mundo.

[ # 1384 ] Comment from marxchan [November 21, 2007, 3:09 pm]

* Mas maganda pa nga ang Koran kesa bible kasi iisa lang ang Islam, solid walang faction.

- yeah right. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divisions_of_Islam

* at yung mga future descendants natin, posibleng na-hack na nila ang human dna para mabuhay sila ng isang libong taon o higit pa. so why fear death? if there is no more death, there is no need to fear God.

- Even if nahack natin human dna, at di na tayo tumatanda, pwede pa rin tayong mamatay due to kapabayaan, hatred, resource limitations etc. there is no way to avoid death.

- Although I’m an atheist and am liking Buddhist philosophy right now, what I like about Christianity is the focus on individual and group development.

For example, meron silang youth camps, meetings, etc. upang maging mas close pa ang mga miyembro nila sa isa’t isa. Sa indibidwal naman, malakas ang pagtutulungan nila at training sa mga nanampalataya sa mga christian groups tulad ng YFC na natutulungan pa nga silang makapagaral ng mabuti o maiwasan ang gumawa ng mga masasamang bagay at napapadali silang makahanap ng syotang kilalang kilala na nila.

Samantala sa atheism, mahirap ata tayo magkaisa kasi paibaiba tayo ng paninimpalataya.

Yun ata ang kaibahan ng atheismo sa kristiyanismo. Mas mahirap humiwalay sa kristyanismo kasi lahat ng mga kaibigan mong miyembro din dun, lahat ng pinagsamahan nyo, lahat ng mga eksperiyensya nyo, e parang binalewala mo na lang, samantala sa atheismo halos wala lang kung umalis ka sa grupo nila. Yun nga ata ang dahilan kaya kahit anong debate, pagpapaliwanag at pruwebang itapon natin sa kanila, di talaga natin sila makukuha kasi maraming mawawala sa kanila.

[ # 1385 ] Comment from marxchan [November 21, 2007, 3:15 pm]

* at yung mga future descendants natin, posibleng na-hack na nila ang human dna para mabuhay sila ng isang libong taon o higit pa. so why fear death? if there is no more death, there is no need to fear God.

Oh and yeah, human genome has been completed since 2003. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2940601.stm

[ # 2093 ] Comment from dentorrecampo [April 11, 2008, 2:36 pm]

however each of us here calls our god/s (or even the atheist view of no-god), it all boils down to how we morally lead our lives.

being human is that religious quest for how we truly treat ourselves, others and the world we live in. in thoughts, in words, and in deeds.

we don’t need a name or a label for it. heck, we don’t need to build fancy churches or ordain corruptible priests to prove our religion.

in the end, we are the church, we are our religion.

imagine…

[ # 2135 ] Comment from Marcus Adorus [April 18, 2008, 1:02 pm]

is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able, and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God.

- Epicurus

[ # 2136 ] Comment from Poch Suzara [April 18, 2008, 8:17 pm]

There is so much fuss and excitement about the physical death of a relative or an associate or a friend. Nobody, however, gives a damn about the mental death of our children in our schools, colleges, and universities. Especially those taught never to think critically and learn to be independent fearlessly and to be useful creatively especially for love of country and love of fellow-Filipinos Poch Suzara

[ # 2142 ] Comment from Poch Suzara [April 19, 2008, 8:18 pm]

Please do not misunderstand me. I’m not saying religion is all evil. It has its uses. Each time I feel I want my self-respect insulted, I turn to holy bible verses written by superstitious primitives of centuries ago. It’s a good thing, however, that I study the bible not to find answers, but to seek for myself better kinds of questions. After all, that is what critical reading under the joy of endless learning is all about. Poch Suzara

[ # 2143 ] Comment from Poch Suzara [April 19, 2008, 8:57 pm]

Faith is not wanting to know what is true. indeed, a man of faith is a like a drunkard clinging to a lamppost for support, not illumination.
For my part, I do not care to believe. I want to discover. to explore. To examine. Indeed, to know.
In the meantime, for me to believe in God because God believes in me is the recourse of a religious moron at home with infantile pursuits. Poch Suzara

[ # 2188 ] Comment from dentorrecampo [April 24, 2008, 4:14 pm]

we share the same biology, regardless of ideology

there is no monopoly of common sense of either side of the political (or religious) fence

-from sting’s russian

respect life’s diversity. practice faith. love life. oust gloria.

[ # 2189 ] Comment from dentorrecampo [April 24, 2008, 4:16 pm]

“on” either side pala hehe…wala kasing “edit” function eh

[ # 2190 ] Comment from Poch Suzara [April 24, 2008, 9:17 pm]

For the mediocre, the highest form of religion is the one that’s based upon mediocrity. The theologians, who are always unworthy of human intelligence, prefer to call it - Christianity. The bible writers called it having faith in divinity. In the end, it is really about the different levels of heavenly felicity, but nevertheless simplified as the complexity of mediocrity. Poch Suzara

[ # 2191 ] Comment from Poch Suzara [April 24, 2008, 9:31 pm]

The holy bible is responsible for more heresy, atheism, agnosticism, disbelief - call it what you like - than any other book ever published.
For my part, messages from the Old and the New Testament both encouraged me to extricate myself out of the Catholic Church. And as I happily excommunicated myself, I saved not my stupid soul; but saved instead my precious mind and heart to carry on living the good life – one inspired by knowledge and guided by love. Poch Suzara

[ # 4553 ] Comment from falcons lair [November 4, 2008, 9:04 am]

I just wanna share this amazing conversation below:

********************************************************
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy speaks to his class on the problem Science
has with GOD, the ALMIGHTY.
He asks one of his new Christian students to stand and . . .

Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn’t.
How is this GOD good then? Hmm?

( Student is silent )
Professor : You can’t answer, can you ?
Let’s start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . . . GOD . . .
Professor : That’s right.
Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ?
And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?

(Student does not answer)

Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
( Student has no answer )
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
Tell me, son . . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist.
What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No sir. There isn’t.

( The Lecture Theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events )

Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat,
White Heat, a Little Heat or No Heat…
But we don’t have anything called Cold.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat,
but we can’t go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is not the opposite of Heat, sir, just the absence of it.

( There is Pin - Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn’t Darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the absence of Light
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and its called
Darkness, isn’t it? In reality, Darkness isn’t.
If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death,
a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite,
something we can measure.
Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen,
much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is not the opposite of Life: just the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved
from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process,
yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?

( The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going )

Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
Cannot even prove that this Process is an On - Going Endeavor,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?

( The Class is in Uproar )

Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor’s Brain?

( The Class breaks out into Laughter )

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable,
Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?

(The Room is Silent. The Professor stares at the Student, his face unfathomable.)

Professor : I guess you’ll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . .
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Moving & Alive.

NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so . . .
You’ll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won’t you?
Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.
It turned out later that the student is…. ALBERT EINSTEIN.
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It’s not about religion..but by having personal relationship with Christ that gives real meaning to life..God loves you

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